diff --git a/gst/audiofx/audiochebband.c b/gst/audiofx/audiochebband.c
index b6c01ebd0f..4d0b09cc5f 100644
--- a/gst/audiofx/audiochebband.c
+++ b/gst/audiofx/audiochebband.c
@@ -389,9 +389,15 @@ generate_biquad_coefficients (GstAudioChebBand * filter,
 }
 
 static void
-generate_coefficients (GstAudioChebBand * filter)
+generate_coefficients (GstAudioChebBand * filter, const GstAudioInfo * info)
 {
-  gint rate = GST_AUDIO_FILTER_RATE (filter);
+  gint rate;
+
+  if (info) {
+    rate = GST_AUDIO_INFO_RATE (info);
+  } else {
+    rate = GST_AUDIO_FILTER_RATE (filter);
+  }
 
   if (rate == 0) {
     gdouble *a = g_new0 (gdouble, 1);
@@ -572,37 +578,37 @@ gst_audio_cheb_band_set_property (GObject * object, guint prop_id,
     case PROP_MODE:
       g_mutex_lock (&filter->lock);
       filter->mode = g_value_get_enum (value);
-      generate_coefficients (filter);
+      generate_coefficients (filter, NULL);
       g_mutex_unlock (&filter->lock);
       break;
     case PROP_TYPE:
       g_mutex_lock (&filter->lock);
       filter->type = g_value_get_int (value);
-      generate_coefficients (filter);
+      generate_coefficients (filter, NULL);
       g_mutex_unlock (&filter->lock);
       break;
     case PROP_LOWER_FREQUENCY:
       g_mutex_lock (&filter->lock);
       filter->lower_frequency = g_value_get_float (value);
-      generate_coefficients (filter);
+      generate_coefficients (filter, NULL);
       g_mutex_unlock (&filter->lock);
       break;
     case PROP_UPPER_FREQUENCY:
       g_mutex_lock (&filter->lock);
       filter->upper_frequency = g_value_get_float (value);
-      generate_coefficients (filter);
+      generate_coefficients (filter, NULL);
       g_mutex_unlock (&filter->lock);
       break;
     case PROP_RIPPLE:
       g_mutex_lock (&filter->lock);
       filter->ripple = g_value_get_float (value);
-      generate_coefficients (filter);
+      generate_coefficients (filter, NULL);
       g_mutex_unlock (&filter->lock);
       break;
     case PROP_POLES:
       g_mutex_lock (&filter->lock);
       filter->poles = GST_ROUND_UP_4 (g_value_get_int (value));
-      generate_coefficients (filter);
+      generate_coefficients (filter, NULL);
       g_mutex_unlock (&filter->lock);
       break;
     default:
@@ -649,7 +655,7 @@ gst_audio_cheb_band_setup (GstAudioFilter * base, const GstAudioInfo * info)
 {
   GstAudioChebBand *filter = GST_AUDIO_CHEB_BAND (base);
 
-  generate_coefficients (filter);
+  generate_coefficients (filter, info);
 
   return GST_AUDIO_FILTER_CLASS (parent_class)->setup (base, info);
 }
diff --git a/gst/audiofx/audiocheblimit.c b/gst/audiofx/audiocheblimit.c
index e1fcdfa76d..385160bc6c 100644
--- a/gst/audiofx/audiocheblimit.c
+++ b/gst/audiofx/audiocheblimit.c
@@ -343,9 +343,19 @@ generate_biquad_coefficients (GstAudioChebLimit * filter,
 }
 
 static void
-generate_coefficients (GstAudioChebLimit * filter)
+generate_coefficients (GstAudioChebLimit * filter, const GstAudioInfo * info)
 {
-  if (GST_AUDIO_FILTER_RATE (filter) == 0) {
+  gint rate;
+
+  if (info) {
+    rate = GST_AUDIO_INFO_RATE (info);
+  } else {
+    rate = GST_AUDIO_FILTER_RATE (filter);
+  }
+
+  GST_LOG_OBJECT (filter, "cutoff %f", filter->cutoff);
+
+  if (rate == 0) {
     gdouble *a = g_new0 (gdouble, 1);
     gdouble *b = g_new0 (gdouble, 1);
 
@@ -358,7 +368,7 @@ generate_coefficients (GstAudioChebLimit * filter)
     return;
   }
 
-  if (filter->cutoff >= GST_AUDIO_FILTER_RATE (filter) / 2.0) {
+  if (filter->cutoff >= rate / 2.0) {
     gdouble *a = g_new0 (gdouble, 1);
     gdouble *b = g_new0 (gdouble, 1);
 
@@ -492,31 +502,31 @@ gst_audio_cheb_limit_set_property (GObject * object, guint prop_id,
     case PROP_MODE:
       g_mutex_lock (&filter->lock);
       filter->mode = g_value_get_enum (value);
-      generate_coefficients (filter);
+      generate_coefficients (filter, NULL);
       g_mutex_unlock (&filter->lock);
       break;
     case PROP_TYPE:
       g_mutex_lock (&filter->lock);
       filter->type = g_value_get_int (value);
-      generate_coefficients (filter);
+      generate_coefficients (filter, NULL);
       g_mutex_unlock (&filter->lock);
       break;
     case PROP_CUTOFF:
       g_mutex_lock (&filter->lock);
       filter->cutoff = g_value_get_float (value);
-      generate_coefficients (filter);
+      generate_coefficients (filter, NULL);
       g_mutex_unlock (&filter->lock);
       break;
     case PROP_RIPPLE:
       g_mutex_lock (&filter->lock);
       filter->ripple = g_value_get_float (value);
-      generate_coefficients (filter);
+      generate_coefficients (filter, NULL);
       g_mutex_unlock (&filter->lock);
       break;
     case PROP_POLES:
       g_mutex_lock (&filter->lock);
       filter->poles = GST_ROUND_UP_2 (g_value_get_int (value));
-      generate_coefficients (filter);
+      generate_coefficients (filter, NULL);
       g_mutex_unlock (&filter->lock);
       break;
     default:
@@ -560,7 +570,7 @@ gst_audio_cheb_limit_setup (GstAudioFilter * base, const GstAudioInfo * info)
 {
   GstAudioChebLimit *filter = GST_AUDIO_CHEB_LIMIT (base);
 
-  generate_coefficients (filter);
+  generate_coefficients (filter, info);
 
   return GST_AUDIO_FILTER_CLASS (parent_class)->setup (base, info);
 }
diff --git a/gst/audiofx/audiofirfilter.c b/gst/audiofx/audiofirfilter.c
index 57fa360e1e..3c01700db8 100644
--- a/gst/audiofx/audiofirfilter.c
+++ b/gst/audiofx/audiofirfilter.c
@@ -163,7 +163,7 @@ gst_audio_fir_filter_update_kernel (GstAudioFIRFilter * self, GValueArray * va)
   }
 
   gst_audio_fx_base_fir_filter_set_kernel (GST_AUDIO_FX_BASE_FIR_FILTER (self),
-      kernel, self->kernel->n_values, self->latency);
+      kernel, self->kernel->n_values, self->latency, NULL);
 }
 
 static void
diff --git a/gst/audiofx/audiofxbasefirfilter.c b/gst/audiofx/audiofxbasefirfilter.c
index a213b04485..d19af6b8a6 100644
--- a/gst/audiofx/audiofxbasefirfilter.c
+++ b/gst/audiofx/audiofxbasefirfilter.c
@@ -880,6 +880,8 @@ gst_audio_fx_base_fir_filter_transform (GstBaseTransform * base,
     gint64 tmp = diff;
     diff = generated_samples - diff;
     generated_samples = tmp;
+  } else {
+    diff = 0;
   }
 
   gst_buffer_resize (outbuf, diff * bps * channels,
@@ -1027,9 +1029,12 @@ gst_audio_fx_base_fir_filter_sink_event (GstBaseTransform * base,
 
 void
 gst_audio_fx_base_fir_filter_set_kernel (GstAudioFXBaseFIRFilter * self,
-    gdouble * kernel, guint kernel_length, guint64 latency)
+    gdouble * kernel, guint kernel_length, guint64 latency,
+    const GstAudioInfo * info)
 {
   gboolean latency_changed;
+  GstAudioFormat format;
+  gint channels;
 
   g_return_if_fail (kernel != NULL);
   g_return_if_fail (self != NULL);
@@ -1064,9 +1069,16 @@ gst_audio_fx_base_fir_filter_set_kernel (GstAudioFXBaseFIRFilter * self,
   self->kernel = kernel;
   self->kernel_length = kernel_length;
 
+  if (info) {
+    format = GST_AUDIO_INFO_FORMAT (info);
+    channels = GST_AUDIO_INFO_CHANNELS (info);
+  } else {
+    format = GST_AUDIO_FILTER_FORMAT (self);
+    channels = GST_AUDIO_FILTER_CHANNELS (self);
+  }
+
   gst_audio_fx_base_fir_filter_calculate_frequency_response (self);
-  gst_audio_fx_base_fir_filter_select_process_function (self,
-      GST_AUDIO_FILTER_FORMAT (self), GST_AUDIO_FILTER_CHANNELS (self));
+  gst_audio_fx_base_fir_filter_select_process_function (self, format, channels);
 
   if (latency_changed) {
     self->latency = latency;
diff --git a/gst/audiofx/audiofxbasefirfilter.h b/gst/audiofx/audiofxbasefirfilter.h
index 263c97d766..5bbc50b51d 100644
--- a/gst/audiofx/audiofxbasefirfilter.h
+++ b/gst/audiofx/audiofxbasefirfilter.h
@@ -93,7 +93,8 @@ struct _GstAudioFXBaseFIRFilterClass {
 };
 
 GType gst_audio_fx_base_fir_filter_get_type (void);
-void gst_audio_fx_base_fir_filter_set_kernel (GstAudioFXBaseFIRFilter *filter, gdouble *kernel, guint kernel_length, guint64 latency);
+void gst_audio_fx_base_fir_filter_set_kernel (GstAudioFXBaseFIRFilter *filter, gdouble *kernel,
+                                              guint kernel_length, guint64 latency, const GstAudioInfo * info);
 void gst_audio_fx_base_fir_filter_push_residue (GstAudioFXBaseFIRFilter *filter);
 
 G_END_DECLS
diff --git a/gst/audiofx/audiokaraoke.c b/gst/audiofx/audiokaraoke.c
index da35c2bad8..c737dd5c11 100644
--- a/gst/audiofx/audiokaraoke.c
+++ b/gst/audiofx/audiokaraoke.c
@@ -161,12 +161,17 @@ gst_audio_karaoke_init (GstAudioKaraoke * filter)
 }
 
 static void
-update_filter (GstAudioKaraoke * filter)
+update_filter (GstAudioKaraoke * filter, const GstAudioInfo * info)
 {
   gfloat A, B, C;
   gint rate;
 
-  rate = GST_AUDIO_FILTER_RATE (filter);
+  if (info) {
+    rate = GST_AUDIO_INFO_RATE (info);
+  } else {
+    rate = GST_AUDIO_FILTER_RATE (filter);
+  }
+
   if (rate == 0)
     return;
 
@@ -198,11 +203,11 @@ gst_audio_karaoke_set_property (GObject * object, guint prop_id,
       break;
     case PROP_FILTER_BAND:
       filter->filter_band = g_value_get_float (value);
-      update_filter (filter);
+      update_filter (filter, NULL);
       break;
     case PROP_FILTER_WIDTH:
       filter->filter_width = g_value_get_float (value);
-      update_filter (filter);
+      update_filter (filter, NULL);
       break;
     default:
       G_OBJECT_WARN_INVALID_PROPERTY_ID (object, prop_id, pspec);
@@ -258,7 +263,7 @@ gst_audio_karaoke_setup (GstAudioFilter * base, const GstAudioInfo * info)
       ret = FALSE;
       break;
   }
-  update_filter (filter);
+  update_filter (filter, info);
 
   return ret;
 }
diff --git a/gst/audiofx/audiowsincband.c b/gst/audiofx/audiowsincband.c
index 682e00a537..fdba187df1 100644
--- a/gst/audiofx/audiowsincband.c
+++ b/gst/audiofx/audiowsincband.c
@@ -220,7 +220,8 @@ gst_audio_wsincband_init (GstAudioWSincBand * self)
 }
 
 static void
-gst_audio_wsincband_build_kernel (GstAudioWSincBand * self)
+gst_audio_wsincband_build_kernel (GstAudioWSincBand * self,
+    const GstAudioInfo * info)
 {
   gint i = 0;
   gdouble sum = 0.0;
@@ -232,8 +233,13 @@ gst_audio_wsincband_build_kernel (GstAudioWSincBand * self)
 
   len = self->kernel_length;
 
-  rate = GST_AUDIO_FILTER_RATE (self);
-  channels = GST_AUDIO_FILTER_CHANNELS (self);
+  if (info) {
+    rate = GST_AUDIO_INFO_RATE (info);
+    channels = GST_AUDIO_INFO_CHANNELS (info);
+  } else {
+    rate = GST_AUDIO_FILTER_RATE (self);
+    channels = GST_AUDIO_FILTER_CHANNELS (self);
+  }
 
   if (rate == 0) {
     GST_DEBUG ("rate not set yet");
@@ -365,7 +371,7 @@ gst_audio_wsincband_build_kernel (GstAudioWSincBand * self)
   }
 
   gst_audio_fx_base_fir_filter_set_kernel (GST_AUDIO_FX_BASE_FIR_FILTER (self),
-      kernel, self->kernel_length, (len - 1) / 2);
+      kernel, self->kernel_length, (len - 1) / 2, info);
 }
 
 /* GstAudioFilter vmethod implementations */
@@ -376,7 +382,7 @@ gst_audio_wsincband_setup (GstAudioFilter * base, const GstAudioInfo * info)
 {
   GstAudioWSincBand *self = GST_AUDIO_WSINC_BAND (base);
 
-  gst_audio_wsincband_build_kernel (self);
+  gst_audio_wsincband_build_kernel (self, info);
 
   return GST_AUDIO_FILTER_CLASS (parent_class)->setup (base, info);
 }
@@ -412,7 +418,7 @@ gst_audio_wsincband_set_property (GObject * object, guint prop_id,
         gst_audio_fx_base_fir_filter_push_residue (GST_AUDIO_FX_BASE_FIR_FILTER
             (self));
         self->kernel_length = val;
-        gst_audio_wsincband_build_kernel (self);
+        gst_audio_wsincband_build_kernel (self, NULL);
       }
       g_mutex_unlock (&self->lock);
       break;
@@ -420,25 +426,25 @@ gst_audio_wsincband_set_property (GObject * object, guint prop_id,
     case PROP_LOWER_FREQUENCY:
       g_mutex_lock (&self->lock);
       self->lower_frequency = g_value_get_float (value);
-      gst_audio_wsincband_build_kernel (self);
+      gst_audio_wsincband_build_kernel (self, NULL);
       g_mutex_unlock (&self->lock);
       break;
     case PROP_UPPER_FREQUENCY:
       g_mutex_lock (&self->lock);
       self->upper_frequency = g_value_get_float (value);
-      gst_audio_wsincband_build_kernel (self);
+      gst_audio_wsincband_build_kernel (self, NULL);
       g_mutex_unlock (&self->lock);
       break;
     case PROP_MODE:
       g_mutex_lock (&self->lock);
       self->mode = g_value_get_enum (value);
-      gst_audio_wsincband_build_kernel (self);
+      gst_audio_wsincband_build_kernel (self, NULL);
       g_mutex_unlock (&self->lock);
       break;
     case PROP_WINDOW:
       g_mutex_lock (&self->lock);
       self->window = g_value_get_enum (value);
-      gst_audio_wsincband_build_kernel (self);
+      gst_audio_wsincband_build_kernel (self, NULL);
       g_mutex_unlock (&self->lock);
       break;
     default:
diff --git a/gst/audiofx/audiowsinclimit.c b/gst/audiofx/audiowsinclimit.c
index f46f5d3cc0..8064e3dbf2 100644
--- a/gst/audiofx/audiowsinclimit.c
+++ b/gst/audiofx/audiowsinclimit.c
@@ -215,7 +215,8 @@ gst_audio_wsinclimit_init (GstAudioWSincLimit * self)
 }
 
 static void
-gst_audio_wsinclimit_build_kernel (GstAudioWSincLimit * self)
+gst_audio_wsinclimit_build_kernel (GstAudioWSincLimit * self,
+    const GstAudioInfo * info)
 {
   gint i = 0;
   gdouble sum = 0.0;
@@ -226,8 +227,13 @@ gst_audio_wsinclimit_build_kernel (GstAudioWSincLimit * self)
 
   len = self->kernel_length;
 
-  rate = GST_AUDIO_FILTER_RATE (self);
-  channels = GST_AUDIO_FILTER_CHANNELS (self);
+  if (info) {
+    rate = GST_AUDIO_INFO_RATE (info);
+    channels = GST_AUDIO_INFO_CHANNELS (info);
+  } else {
+    rate = GST_AUDIO_FILTER_RATE (self);
+    channels = GST_AUDIO_FILTER_CHANNELS (self);
+  }
 
   if (rate == 0) {
     GST_DEBUG ("rate not set yet");
@@ -300,7 +306,7 @@ gst_audio_wsinclimit_build_kernel (GstAudioWSincLimit * self)
   }
 
   gst_audio_fx_base_fir_filter_set_kernel (GST_AUDIO_FX_BASE_FIR_FILTER (self),
-      kernel, self->kernel_length, (len - 1) / 2);
+      kernel, self->kernel_length, (len - 1) / 2, info);
 }
 
 /* GstAudioFilter vmethod implementations */
@@ -311,7 +317,7 @@ gst_audio_wsinclimit_setup (GstAudioFilter * base, const GstAudioInfo * info)
 {
   GstAudioWSincLimit *self = GST_AUDIO_WSINC_LIMIT (base);
 
-  gst_audio_wsinclimit_build_kernel (self);
+  gst_audio_wsinclimit_build_kernel (self, info);
 
   return GST_AUDIO_FILTER_CLASS (parent_class)->setup (base, info);
 }
@@ -347,7 +353,7 @@ gst_audio_wsinclimit_set_property (GObject * object, guint prop_id,
         gst_audio_fx_base_fir_filter_push_residue (GST_AUDIO_FX_BASE_FIR_FILTER
             (self));
         self->kernel_length = val;
-        gst_audio_wsinclimit_build_kernel (self);
+        gst_audio_wsinclimit_build_kernel (self, NULL);
       }
       g_mutex_unlock (&self->lock);
       break;
@@ -355,19 +361,19 @@ gst_audio_wsinclimit_set_property (GObject * object, guint prop_id,
     case PROP_FREQUENCY:
       g_mutex_lock (&self->lock);
       self->cutoff = g_value_get_float (value);
-      gst_audio_wsinclimit_build_kernel (self);
+      gst_audio_wsinclimit_build_kernel (self, NULL);
       g_mutex_unlock (&self->lock);
       break;
     case PROP_MODE:
       g_mutex_lock (&self->lock);
       self->mode = g_value_get_enum (value);
-      gst_audio_wsinclimit_build_kernel (self);
+      gst_audio_wsinclimit_build_kernel (self, NULL);
       g_mutex_unlock (&self->lock);
       break;
     case PROP_WINDOW:
       g_mutex_lock (&self->lock);
       self->window = g_value_get_enum (value);
-      gst_audio_wsinclimit_build_kernel (self);
+      gst_audio_wsinclimit_build_kernel (self, NULL);
       g_mutex_unlock (&self->lock);
       break;
     default: